mountain lions in new hampshire

Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Thank you very much for listening. I can't. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. Caller: Absolutely. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. So let's let's go to the phones. And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. You're on the air. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II - WMUR We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. Yet this young male traveled about 1,800 miles. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. We'd be inundated with scouts in the past when newspaper articles have been written about DNA and scouts. Patrick Tate: I don't believe it is. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. We've met Fish and Game's BURDEN OF PROOF. It's you know I recognized their report and. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. So so. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. But no proof was offered. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. Let's talk to Bob in Laconia Bob. Thanks for calling. However, as far as I can tell theres no Deep State Conspiracy to cover up a breeding population of cougars in the Granite State. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. And those are not the same things. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. NH Wildlife News and Info | NH Wildlife I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. And the cougar embodies that. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. We speculate they dont want us to screw up tourism we dont know whats going on. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. It's not a skinny rope like tail like a housecat. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Updated: 9:53 AM EST Dec 6, 2016. and territorial animals are much more inclined to create a problem with passer bys than dispersing animals in fact I'd be totally shocked if a dispersal would encounter with a human purposefully unless they had already had some type of training to do so. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. I wasn't employed as biologists at the time of a situation that's been reported but so I started digging into this report and spoke with another wildlife biologist with the agency and said Do you know anything about this. Caller: I have yeah. John you're on the air. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. Really appreciate it. Theres tracks everywhere. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. Right. So what counts as verifiable evidence? Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. So so in 2011 a mountain lion was killed in a car accident in Connecticut a car hit a mountain lion and killed it. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. So I want to start the program with a comment from someone who is not in the studio with us today. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? We'd love to have you in the queue. For over 38 years the Saddleback Mountain Lions have offered people a chance to give back to their community. You know I'm like seriously I can't get a picture of the thing but what it what it is. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. Author of The last woman in the forest on Saturday July 13th at 7 p.m. at Warner town hall Warner historical dawg. But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. "Of those three to five reports,. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. Your support makes this news available to everyone. We had six copies printed out each. As I tried to get a picture of it so there was it was definitely we looked up all the pictures and it was definitely not a bobcat or anything else being it looked just like a mountain lion. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. 44-H Links. And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. One was in Shelton. Can you tell us about that story. So they're scary. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. But you can continue the conversation on Facebook or at our Web site and HP Borg. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. Verifiable pictures recorded by the observing person or a trail camera. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. Let's go now to to Kyle in Keene I believe Kyle is this Kyle Jarvis from the Keene Sentinel a former reporter and former reporter. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. I didn't see him online. NH Fish and Game relies on physical evidence to answer questions about the presence or absence of mountain lion in the state. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer m from a weed family Automotive on store Street in Concord is serving the Concord area families automotive needs since 1995. Have you seen one. Caller: Are probably. And so a mountain lion is actually quite large right. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. From: Boomerdog in OK 08-Oct-07 Phone number 1 800. There's never, ever, ever, ever been a documented case of a black mountain lion. The panther, Fells concolor, is a beast of many names, most frequently referred to in New Hampshire history as catamount, but sometimes known locally as "Indian Devil" or "Carcajou", under which . He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. This is not the same as saying that there has never been a mountain lion seen in New Hampshire. Rick your thoughts. Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread Absolutely. Sam Evans-Brown: Pretty well I was going to say it is nice to hear about how to identify the facial markings but probably I'd being a to identify the tracks is probably the more useful useful tool that one can have in their tool box. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. Wed love to be part of the first verified sighting. New Hampshire's Mountain Lions | NH Wildlife Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. Tim Yeah. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat. John thanks. The book MAMMAL TRACKS & SIGN by Mark Elbroch has pictures of mountain lion scat found at a multiple beaver kill. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. David Erler says some of them probably have. Email exchange it an HP fraud org or give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Thank you. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. From "History of New Hampshire Game and Furbearers" by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. The big cat has been extinct at least the eastern mountain lion has been extinct here since the mid 80s hundreds. I actually been interviewed a couple of times by reporters and with all due respect for the media you know facts aren't always communicated correctly. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. And they were using all the habitat. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. Caller: I do. Post your sightings and NH photos here! But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. But along the lines of the conspiracy theories as you mentioned earlier there there was a bit of a sense on behalf of what I'll call the promo online community who felt that fishing gain maybe not even so much in a spoken policy but maybe sort of an unspoken policy did not want to find themselves in a situation where they had to spend money to create a management plan and so forth. Give today. So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. And you know all that. Patrick Tate: Yes. So. brings a lot of. He says when youve got a mountain lion in town, its kinda obvious. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. We want answers. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. I really really enjoyed listening to this program so thank you all very much. If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. Thanks very much. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. NH Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist Patrick Tate reports that so far, mountain lion reports accompanied byphotographs have been misidentified bobcats or housecats, or pictures of mountain lions taken from the Internet and reported as being recorded in New Hampshire. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. I'll send it to you. I think that you probably are.



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